A Dialog With John Cameron Mitchell, the Man Who Introduced Hedwig and Actual Intercourse to the Massive…
The director of ‘The right way to Discuss to Ladies at Events’ discusses the restrictions of id politics, the advantages of by no means being super-popular and the worth in forgiving your mother and father
Outcasts, weirdos, dorks, punkers and aliens are all welcome within the films of John Cameron Mitchell. Beginning his profession as a theater actor, profitable an Obie Award in 1993 for his function in Larry Kramer’s The Destiny of Me, he has since branched out throughout a number of disciplines. He DJs, provides live shows and nonetheless does the occasional appearing gig. (Mitchell had a stint on Ladies and performed Andy Warhol within the short-lived Vinyl.) However he’s greatest identified for his superb creation Hedwig and the Indignant Inch, which turned one of many late 1990s’ signature rock musicals, introducing us to the wounded, resilient singer Hedwig Robinson who’s trying again at her life rising up in East Germany. Mitchell wrote the e-book and performed Hedwig within the Off-Broadway manufacturing, making him a cult sensation within the course of.
Quickly, Mitchell took Hedwig to the large display, starring in and directing the 2001 movie adaptation. From there, a movie profession was born: Mitchell had acted in films, however after Hedwig, he began making his personal, starting with 2006’s controversial Shortbus, in regards to the love and intercourse lives of a gaggle of younger individuals. The intercourse was actual and so had been the feelings of the nonprofessional forged, whom Mitchell labored with over the span of some years as a way to develop their characters and their relationships. From there, Mitchell centered on the grief of a married couple (performed by Nicole Kidman and Aaron Eckhart) whose younger son has died in 2010’s Rabbit Hole, an adaptation of David Lindsay-Abaire’s Pulitzer-winning play.
His newest, How to Talk to Girls at Parties, an adaptation of a Neil Gaiman quick story, premiered eventually yr’s Cannes Movie Competition, telling the story of a candy British lad named Enn (Alex Sharp) who’s dwelling in London in 1977 beneath the sway of the burgeoning punk rock scene. One night time, Enn and his buddies find yourself at a celebration with a bunch of unusual characters decked out in latex outfits — they’re not from London; actually, they’re not from this planet. Falling for the gorgeous, enigmatic Zan (Elle Fanning), Enn shortly realizes he’s stumbled upon a gaggle of aliens who’ve come to Earth for a mysterious mission — numerous freaky, horny issues quickly unfold.
The right way to Discuss to Ladies at Events, which opened final Friday, harkens again to Hedwig in its mash-up of drama and music — revolving round themes of id, love and the lifesaving properties of rock ’n’ roll. But it surely’s additionally a John Cameron Mitchell joint due to its huge coronary heart, subversive streak and finally optimistic message. (Talking to our despondent fashionable age, although it’s set 41 years in the past, Zan informs Enn that Earth might not be good, however it’s nonetheless a fairly great spot.)
Mitchell has lengthy wished to provide audiences just a little hope. Now 55, he stays an enthralling, boyishly good-looking iconoclast who sticks to his imaginative and prescient, even when it means he goes almost a decade between movies. And after I interview him, he comes throughout as a person at peace with the challenges of being an underdog. Hedwig and the Indignant Inch could have had a triumphant revival on Broadway a number of years in the past that starred Neil Patrick Harris and received 4 Tonys, however Mitchell appears like somebody extra comfy on the margins, fortunately pursuing ardour tasks and dwelling life, as he describes himself, as a “nervous optimist.”
Throughout our hour-long dialog, he talks about his affinity for punk music, how a lot more durable the movie trade has gotten for mavericks like himself, why the world nonetheless can’t take care of the intercourse in Shortbus and the explanations that Hedwig resonates 20 years later. However John Cameron Mitchell additionally needs us to grasp that, ultimately, we have to forgive our mother and father earlier than it’s too late.
Watching The right way to Discuss to Ladies at Events, I considered the way it linked to your different work thematically and even tonally. Are you naturally drawn to left-of-center tasks?
I mess around with style, and I like mixing issues up — the way in which issues are combined up in fairy tales and the way in which they’re combined up in life. Life isn’t a style, and fairy tales aren’t actually a style: You’ve obtained all types of darkish ones, musical ones, glad ones and unhappy ones. I like fairy tales. Loads of my movies are simply knowledgeable by the 1970s — Altman, Cassavetes and Bob Fosse are my favorites. All of my movies type of have a 1970s form of midnight-movies feeling with a heartfelt middle.
Neil Gaiman and I [bonded] over fables, our humorousness, and the significance of music and design and mixing all of it up, crashing influences collectively — and, in fact, Hedwig is a collision of a whole lot of kinds, too. [How to Talk to Girls at Parties] appeared like a fantastic alternative to play within the sandbox I’ve performed in, but additionally add new components and do a teenage love story — the one which I might have wished to see as an adolescent. The film doesn’t essentially match into developments of right now, however I by no means actually have executed that.
You’ve talked about in different interviews as nicely that you just consider your movies as being midnight films. Had been you actually into them as a child?
In Albuquerque, there was Rocky Horror. I wasn’t an everyday [at midnight movies], however I’d go and see some uncommon issues right here and there. And there appeared to be a repertoire of midnight films that was typically very scary. There was one thing just a little scary about Jodorowsky or Liquid Sky. There was nonetheless some selection [back then] — an organization would put out Showgirls, however perhaps not right now. There was a bit extra risk-taking even within the 1990s and 2000s as a result of there was the DVD, which was a foundational factor. You can promote so many DVDs, even of a badly-reviewed movie. So that you knew you weren’t going to lose your cash if there was a low price range. These days, there’s no assure of that — you get much less risk-taking for small movies.
That’s why you must fear about the way it’s going to carry out abroad way more, proper?
It’s simpler in Europe and Latin America than right here in some methods — younger individuals nonetheless go to the cinemas [there]. However [in the U.S.], not so many younger individuals are speeding to see small movies. There’s perhaps one or two a yr, like Woman Chicken or Moonrise Kingdom, and if you happen to don’t hit that slot…
In, say, 2000, a whole lot of faculty individuals would go see no matter was the well-reviewed unbiased movie of the week. Now, they see the TV present that’s talked about. It’s totally different viewing patterns — I believe individuals nonetheless need quite a lot of stuff, however tv is doing higher at having a spread. They’re not nice at messing with type, although — they nonetheless need to promote it as “a comedy” or “a drama.” Hedwig didn’t actually match into something completely. Shortbus actually didn’t. Rabbit Gap did, however that was another person’s script.
So how do you make it work once you don’t “slot in”?
I’m not only a filmmaker, so I wait round for stuff that tickles my fancy — in addition to issues the place I’ve last minimize. However individuals have a formulation: The Coen brothers, Paul Thomas Anderson, they do attention-grabbing issues, however they form of have a formulation. They pack [their movies] with stars they usually do what they need, however additionally they notice that it needs to be marketed.
I’ve by no means been a go-along man. And I’ve by no means been one to [court] stars, as a result of they’re a whole lot of bother and their schedules change on the final second they usually don’t have time to rehearse. They could be good staff gamers, like Nicole Kidman [who’s additionally in The right way to Discuss to Ladies at Events], however most of them produce other agendas. They’ve their TV [show] or their Marvel film they’ve to try this comes first, although they don’t actually get pleasure from it — that’s their bread and butter. So it’s a whole lot of threading the needle.
Fortunately, I’ve different issues that I do. I’m engaged on modifying a fictional podcast collection, which is my new musical. I’m doing live shows, mentoring a younger filmmaker and dealing on creating a TV collection. Hedwig nonetheless occurs all over the world. I can also act in TV exhibits. It’s more durable for people who find themselves simply movie individuals.
Rising up, do you know you wished to be a filmmaker? Given every part you do, I’m curious what got here first for you.
My favourite artists would work in numerous kinds — Bob Fosse was a dancer, then a choreographer, then a director for theater, then a director for movie. In faculty, I used to be directing, appearing and writing on a regular basis. The appearing [career] occurred quicker, and oddly I simply fell into it, however I obtained just a little bored — I used to be making a dwelling and doing nice issues, however we’d be doing a present and I used to be like, “This could possibly be higher. In case you’d let me edit this…” I used to be the actor who saved attempting to minimize his personal strains as an alternative of add to them. [Laughs] Individuals revered me as a result of I wasn’t simply the standard actor who was nervous about his personal scenes. I wish to see the large image.
So all of it flows into one another if you happen to’re doing it truthfully and doing it for the best causes. The cash doesn’t all the time stream if you happen to’re going after stuff that you just love. I’m not dumb with cash, however I don’t chase it. I’ve to chase it a bit extra now — my mother’s healthcare, I would like to boost cash for that. But it surely’ll come. I’m form of a nervous optimist: I sweat the small issues however know ultimately will probably be advantageous.
I like that method of describing your self. Had been you all the time a nervous optimist?
I believe I’ve all the time been that method. I’m a super-prepared, think-it-through form of individual. I take into consideration each potential catastrophe and all of the parameters, after which I get to a spot the place I could be spontaneous, whether or not it’s a stage, a shoot or a DJ state of affairs. You assume it by after which let it go and go mad, as a result of you already know you’re protected in that atmosphere.
Take, for instance, Shortbus. I wished to work with actual intercourse as a part of the story, as it’s in our lives — we don’t minimize away the primary time now we have intercourse with somebody we’re in love with. I do know the explanations that now we have panic about intercourse within the arts — we’re a Christian nation and in addition we’re a sexist nation, so something that isn’t male-dominated is scary. Individuals appear to equate displaying actual intercourse with porn. Really, porn is for jerking off to — it truly has a objective. It may be gratifying, however as we all know in our lives, a whole lot of intercourse just isn’t porn. Loads of it’s ridiculous and offended and dangerous.
So Shortbus was an experiment, and the actors must be very particular actors who’d need to go there with me and belief me. We labored with them for two-and-a half years earlier than we filmed it. That’s an instance of me prepping for one thing that appears loopy and out-of-control — actual intercourse in a movie — however was actually thought-through, mentioned and processed in order that we could possibly be free after we did it.
Individuals will discuss films being “forward of their time.” I might say that Shortbus’ matter-of-fact therapy of intercourse qualifies, however the fact is — No, it’s nonetheless forward of its time. [Laughs] I don’t know when my time is.
That film got here out in 2006, however it looks as if we’re no nearer to treating intercourse in an grownup, refined method.
It’s bizarre. Within the early 2000s, there have been attention-grabbing European movies that had been pushing the boundaries, however they tended to be very grim. So I wished to make an American, John-Waters-meets-Hedwig model. I wished to make a heartfelt fairy story the place intercourse was the playground however not what [the movie] was about. Mates can be like, “Oh, you can also make much more cash — and plenty of extra individuals would see this — if you happen to’d take away the intercourse.” And I’m like, “Properly, I might even have eliminated the songs from Hedwig, however why? That’s what makes it particular — it makes use of punk rock in a method that’s narrative, which isn’t traditional.” With Shortbus, I used to be utilizing intercourse in a method that’s narrative, comedian, and hopefully, heartbreaking, to problem our notion of intercourse in our personal lives.
I grew up Catholic — that’s one of many causes I made it, to query my very own concern about [sex]. There’s queer intercourse [in the film], and that’s all individuals can see. When somebody is biracial, they’re black, proper? They’re not white — they’re all the time the opposite. So if there’s a movie with homosexual intercourse and straight intercourse, it’s a “homosexual movie” — it’s like, if you happen to’re bisexual, you’re “homosexual.” Individuals need to label issues, and I hate that.
Curiously, the panic after we had been making Shortbus was extra a right-wing form of repressive, traditionalist factor. It couldn’t be rated [because of the explicit sex], it couldn’t be in sure theaters, and it was banned in lots of international locations. The Korean distributor took it to the Supreme Courtroom there and adjusted the legislation, after which we had been allowed to play there. However now if I made it, there’s different proscriptions which may come from extra liberal individuals: “If there’s intercourse occurring, somebody’s being exploited.” That is perhaps the objection now. “You as a white man, how will you have a black individual have intercourse? You as a homosexual man, what are you aware about lesbian intercourse? Or trans individuals?”
There’s a form of splintering of id politics — which comes out of true grievance — that typically turns into one other form of censorship. It’s primarily based on concern of somebody being damage. I assume that’s what the conservative [criticism] was too — that somebody was being damage — however that was extra, “God is being damage. What if our youngsters see homosexual intercourse? Will it make them homosexual?” And now it’s extra like, “In case you present a unadorned lady, it’s possible you’ll be exploiting her, although she’s a part of the method of making it.” So I don’t know if we’d have the ability to be financed right now.
With Shortbus, you crafted this nice social experiment, casting non-professional actors and having them price one another when it comes to attractiveness. That form of adventurousness appears so uncommon right now.
We had an open name and requested individuals to affix us: “Who’s keen to go there? Nobody does something you don’t need to, however I would like everybody to problem themselves.” I need to be a part of tasks which might be attempting to not simply push the envelope however transfer the envelope ahead, [be] progressive, make issues higher.
We now have a lot info now, and a whole lot of it panics us. Loads of information appear to inform us we’re going downhill. But it surely’s necessary to me that no matter story I inform has hope in it, has instruments to take care of the longer term and the previous — together with trauma. It needs to be therapeutic, joyful, communitarian-based, even when it’s about remoted people. And perhaps that’s gone out of style on this Recreation of Thrones, there-is-no-justice-there’s-only-revenge world. It’s no shock now we have hundreds of thousands of faculty shootings. Each present appears to say you haven’t any recourse however getting one of the best revenge.
Your work, even when it’s constructed round “taboo” matters, has this unbelievable sweetness to it. The place does that come from?
I used to be a candy child. My mother and father had been very “You are able to do this” — they had been a security web, however they weren’t cuddly. They had been loving, however they had been loving in that British form of get-on-with-it method. They usually had been very humorous. There was a sweetness in regards to the 1970s, too. We weren’t overloaded — sure, in some ways it was a lot darker than it’s now, as a result of there was terrorism, financial collapse and Watergate. However as youngsters, it didn’t actually contact us. We had the smiley face, proper? We had the leftover of the 1960s, however we took it critically: We thought the world could possibly be higher.
I grew up within the navy, which was extra liberal then. [Editor’s observe: Mitchell’s father was Major General John H. Mitchell.] The navy was like a socialist state that works: “You do your job, you get healthcare. Why can’t it’s like that for the remainder of the nation?” Desegregation occurred within the navy earlier than it occurred in our tradition. Gays had been within the navy earlier than we had homosexual marriage. Sure, there’s a macho factor within the navy that may get on my nerves, however I additionally grew up in a bubble of “Handle your self, do your job, and we’re gonna be okay.”
Reagan form of shifted right into a extra greed-based, pretend traditionalism. After which AIDS actually put a dagger in our again. The Republicans ignoring a whole bunch of hundreds of residents dying as a result of they didn’t actually like their life-style — that actually angered me, however once more, ACT UP compelled these medicine by and saved my life and others. So there’s optimism in that.
I nonetheless am an optimist. Punk had an aggressive optimism about it. And that’s what all my work has. I grew up with loss — I misplaced my brother after I was little, and I’ve had a whole lot of loss in my life. However there’s a kindness in making artwork collectively that retains me afloat. When individuals say, “Oh, I didn’t know intercourse could possibly be candy,” it’s like, “Honey, look in your individual life — I hope it’s candy for you.”
Your films won’t ever make Marvel cash, however how does it really feel after they don’t catch on on the field workplace?
The factor is, all of my movies discover their viewers later. The opening-grosses mindset comes from blanketing the airwaves or web, [selling] a style or a star or some loopy picture. And in case your factor doesn’t match into that, individuals are simply gonna discover it later. Hedwig was a flop on display, after which hundreds of thousands of individuals gave it to their associates and located it on DVD, and that made us cash. I haven’t seen a cent from any of my movies, personally. You don’t make small movies to earn money — Broadway gave me more cash than Hedwig ever did on movie. I’m anticipating the identical factor with [The right way to Discuss to Ladies at Events] — it doesn’t match into any anticipated style. However then they discover an viewers. It takes a number of tries. Plus, individuals don’t need to go to the theater anymore; they need to wait till it will get on Netflix or iTunes, however that’s advantageous.
After all, with The right way to Discuss to Ladies at Events being set within the 1970s punk scene, I take into consideration what number of of these bands had been by no means super-popular. It’s like with the Velvet Underground — it was cool to know these bands and to share them with different individuals, as a result of it wasn’t mainstream.
There’s a ravishing pleasure in being the sacred underdog. After I meet individuals who like Hedwig, they’re typically those who I like. I don’t know what it was like for Kurt Cobain or somebody who got here from the underground to out of the blue be favored by the fucking frat boys that he hated. I’ll by no means know what that’s like, fortunately, except there’s some miracle or catastrophe the place I’m in a TV present that turns into massively fashionable.
I’ll have, like, one or two individuals per day give a smile or ask for an image, and that’s nice. It doesn’t make for some huge cash — like when it’s essential to pay on your mother’s Alzheimer’s [care] — however it makes for a fantastic, nourished soul, which is as necessary, and possibly extra necessary in the long term. Everyone knows individuals who’ve needed to chase cash or have chosen to chase cash for numerous causes — for his or her household, for his or her greed — they usually’ve succeeded at it, and there’s some large gap in the midst of their coronary heart. It’s unhappy when that turns into their obsession. However there’s a necessity to feed totally different components of you — your pockets and your soul. And soul-wise, I’ve been advantageous.
As you mentioned earlier, in America we wish to label issues and folks —
I’m not a Marxist, however id politics feels just a little bit like an extrapolation of capitalistic advertising and marketing — if you happen to can name it one thing, you’ll be able to promote to it. If you wish to separate your self and say, “I’m a white, heterosexual such-and-such,” nice. “I’m a non-binary trans individual of shade,” nice. These issues are empowering for individuals — they’re additionally issues that it’s essential to do once you’re younger. However typically these issues begin to dissolve. Like once you hang around with your folks and also you overlook that they’re homosexual — or overlook that they’re black — which is how all of us actually need to be, the place we’re all being revered and we overlook our variations and everybody has the identical alternative.
We’re actually not there but — and I do know the splintering can really feel empowering, however typically it may be a lure and could be one thing that limits. Rising up homosexual, I wanted to return out and make that identified, after which I moved on. I don’t know what it’s wish to be a girl or an individual of shade. However let’s not alienate potential allies — let’s discover the issues in widespread. That’s what I attempt to do with my work.
However how does that work when it comes to the way you determine? I do know administrators, who’re girls or individuals of shade, who catch flak as a result of they’re not making films about individuals like themselves. Do you’re feeling strain to inform tales about homosexual characters?
I’m from the theater, the place masks are necessary and role-playing is necessary. I’ve performed straight individuals, I’ve performed girls. To say that solely straight individuals can play straight roles — or solely homosexual individuals can play homosexual roles and [only] trans individuals can play trans roles … There’s such quite a lot of trans, and if I wrote a trans function now, I might attempt to forged a trans individual. However trans is what you make it and what you name it. And one trans individual is perhaps higher than one other trans individual for a job. A straight individual is perhaps higher than a homosexual individual — everyone knows our female straight male good friend and our butch homosexual male good friend, and it’s higher to forged the straight in that function.
I get aggravated when stars get particular therapy — I perceive it capitalistically, as a result of they’re a commodity — however I get aggravated when, as a result of they’re a star, they get first dibs. I’ve felt that strain to get extra names in my movie. However I’ve been fortunate sufficient to not must do something I didn’t need to do — which is why I wait 5 and 6 years in between movies to make them.
That’s what attention-grabbing to me about Hedwig: It’s been a part of the tradition for therefore lengthy now that, in a whole lot of methods, we’ve caught as much as it. The subject material not feels so stunning.
I by no means noticed it as stunning — I assume someone did. My mother and father did. What’s nice about Hedwig is that individuals interpret it in numerous methods, and it’s often the way in which that I like. Hedwig isn’t a trans character, as a result of you must determine your self as trans to be trans. Trans is commonly an empowering resolution, versus a form of coerced mutilation by the patriarchy. She was compelled right into a intercourse change to get out of East Germany, which he didn’t need, by a duplicitous husband and controlling mother, who weirdly was doing it to assist him be free — after which is deserted in a trailer park, recognized by society as a girl however feeling like they don’t know who they’re as a result of they didn’t select it.
You can say, “None of us select it initially — we outline it, we make one thing of what we’re given.” However the Indignant Inch is a metaphor — it’s not a trans assertion, it’s a metaphor for all of us. What has occurred to us? What was minimize off of us? What’s the opposite half that was ripped away? What’s the lacking love? What’s the primal wound, and what will we do with that? In her case, she placed on some make-up, she sang rock ’n’ roll, she listened to Patti Smith and Tina Turner, and he or she saved herself.
Everybody is aware of that Hedwig is about masks. And what’s lovely about it’s that anybody can play it. Now that it’s within the zeitgeist, any gender, race or age can play the function, and everyone knows it’s a function — it’s about masks, and once you want them and once you don’t.
So [Hedwig] isn’t talking for anybody however Hedwig — or anybody however me. Gender flows — it modifications. That’s the definition of queer — the notice that gender flows. It’s not about who you fuck — that’s why straight individuals could be queer, as a result of everyone knows these individuals who felt “different” due to gender expression. Somebody thought they had been a butch lady they usually had been straight — they perceive what it was to be the outsider, they usually perceive the humor that comes out of being the gender outsider. That’s queer. Individuals you don’t anticipate are queer — and a whole lot of homosexual individuals aren’t queer as a result of they simply observe the norms of even what is meant to be homosexual.
In 2014, you mentioned that you just’re engaged on a brand new chapter for Hedwig — that it is perhaps a trilogy, reflecting your individual ageing course of. How has it been to consider that character as a fiftysomething?
Properly, Stephen [Trask, who wrote the Hedwig music and lyrics] and I’ve type of deserted the sequel thought. At first, I used to be considering it might be a mouthpiece to speak about different issues I’m fascinated by, however it was virtually like borrowing another person’s wig. [Laughs] The issues I wished to speak about, I shifted over to a unique musical, Anthem, which is able to come out in a podcast type and be extra autobiographical. I used to be attempting to graph Hedwig’s wig onto my physique, versus telling my very own story from a sure point-of-view.
As you get older, you begin to need to speak extra about your loved ones as your mother and father age or move away. You’re like, “Okay, perhaps I’m free to speak about that stuff now with out individuals being damage.” Each artist or author does that as they method the center of their life. Whenever you’re in your 20s, you don’t all the time have good perspective about the way you grew up — you’re nonetheless mad. [Laughs] Then, later you go, “Oh, my mother and father had childhoods, too, they usually did one of the best they might, and at worst, they had been victims.”
You mentioned earlier that your mother has Alzheimer’s. With both of your mother and father, did your relationship change? Did you cease being mad?
I used to be offended at my mother and father. They had been very candy however very Catholic. My dad supported gays within the navy again within the Clinton days when it was not cool. And my mother was refined, inventive and taught me about artwork. However they had been by-the-book Catholics. My mother was an anti-abortion activist — abortion is a really complicated difficulty, and I might by no means choose somebody [on their position], however I imagine in selection. However different issues appeared black-and-white: coping with AIDS, coping with homosexual rights, trans rights. I didn’t speak to them for awhile as a result of I noticed them shifting — Fox Information was doing [to them] what it did to a lot of America, which is forcing individuals who didn’t actually have an opinion about one thing into having an opinion, or they weren’t conservatives. Catholics had been famously socialists, however I noticed them out of the blue tick off the containers of what you’re “supposed” to be to be conservative. I noticed them altering and out of the blue not considering that I ought to have the ability to get married. It actually damage me.
However I had an aunt who was a nun, who’s probably the most liberal nun, my Aunt Terri, who I really like dearly, my surrogate mom. She mentioned, “I would like your mother and father to return to Chicago, and also you to return to Chicago and speak this out. This doctrine is getting in your method.” She allow us to speak it out — there was a whole lot of tears and a whole lot of anger. Then my dad mentioned, “In case you select to get married to a man that you just love, I will probably be there at your wedding ceremony.” That was large. It was out of the blue about somebody in entrance of them who was their little one.
I thank Sister Terri on a regular basis for that. My mother and father had been embarrassed by Hedwig, however then they noticed that it made individuals glad. They named their canine Hedwig. The Denver Post asked them, “How will you be associates with Archbishop Chaput” — probably the most right-wing [archbishop] in America — “and [be okay with] your son doing what he does?” And my mother mentioned, “We love the Archbishop, however he by no means had a son.”
Each my mother and father have had Alzheimer’s. My dad has handed. As quickly as I knew my dad had Alzheimer’s, all of my anger drained away. I mentioned, “They’re gonna die — we’re all gonna die. There’s no time for political or non secular rivalry.” Weirdly, it takes a well being disaster to keep in mind that.
I inform all my associates who really feel alienated from their households — due to politics and due to Fox Information and Trump — that that [anger] will fade when it’s time. Sadly, it comes later.
Tim Grierson is a contributing editor at MEL. He last wrote about how he kinda loves the Star Wars spin-off films.